This conversation identifies “invitations” that may suggest a child or youth is considering suicide, this is followed by direction on what, and what not, to say to the young person. Wolfgang interviews Sonia McDonald, a child and youth worker (CYW) in Ontario and a certified trainer with Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training (ASIST) created by LivingWorks. LivingWorks was started in Canada in the mid 1970s. Since then they have helped develop and deliver suicide training in multiple continents for close to a million caregivers. For more information about ASIST see, and for training in Ontario you can email Sonia directly at

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